Tinnitus

Is anybody else deeply troubled by this? I'm an eighteen and have unfortunately been afflicted with this for at least four years. For the first two noticeable years, I dealt with it perfectly well – but for the past two, they've been unbearable (ultimately having to drop out of college due to depression and insomnia).

I always associate my bed with tinnitus, so that instantly sets me off for a bad night of sleeping.

I've been to psychologists about it, but to no avail.

I've also tried listening to a plethora of different genres of music, and all the different types of noise (e.g. white etc.) available.

Does anybody have any 'grassroots' tips? One could say that it's 'doing my head in'.

Posted 5 Dec 2011 at 2:36 AM
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  • Sleepio Member

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    I'm 16 and have always had short term tinnitus, it would just come for maybe 1-2 minutes and i wouldn't hear it again until maybe next week and it never bothered me at all. But about 4 months ago i re-arranged my room and that night i struggled to sleep as i had a constant high pitched hissing noise in both ears which was a completely different noise to my short term tinnitus i had previously experienced. I knew as soon as i herd it i would have it for a very long time, if not, the rest of my life. It has caused me great distress in sleeping, although i can't hear it if i am focused on something i'm interested in (which i'm grateful for as i have some escape from the tinnitus hell) honestly the only thing that has gotten me through the past months are my friends and some white noise tapes (I really recommend these but you need to find one that will suit you, there are many on youtube).

    Anyhow i have had some false diagnosis from my doctors with my tinnitus, At first they said it was a wax build up but i completely cleaned my ears and it's still present, then they said i'm anemic but my blood test results came back clear and now they're saying it's caused by the pill but i've been off that for 2 weeks and i've still noticed no change. (sorry for this being a long post i just want to be descriptive) and i have still to see an ENT doctor.

    I also suffer from pulsate tinnitus whenever i lay my head on the pillow, so not only have i got this screeching but i have my heartbeat in my ears too. The only thing that i have found that helps with this is to slightly move your head up and down the pillow, almost masking the pulsate tinnitus but it doesn't help with the sleeping problems.
    I know i'd give a limb to get rid of this constant noise, it is rather depressing.

    I hope that you find a solution to your tinnitus,
    Best wishes-Sleepykitten

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    Hi Sleepykitten
    Tinnitus can be really distressing when you first develop it. It happened to me about 8 years ago, and I had a very bad time for a while, unable to sleep or concentrate and getting pretty depressed. I tried various solutions and finally found a series of relaxation exercises which really helped over time. Now it scarcely bothers me. 80% of it is caused by stress and anxiety. Once you've learned to push it into the back of your consciousness, you'll find it will worry you much less and you can be happy and get on with things. You say you forget the tinnitus when focused on something else, so it's a matter of finding ways of deflecting your attention on it.
    If you're from the UK, have you tried the British Tinnitus Association? They have lots of suggestions to help you neutralise it. If you're not British, there will be a tinnitus support organisation to go to for support. Talking to others may help. Rest assured, your subconscious mind will gradually adapt. It's like going to the seaside and being unable to sleep because of the seagulls, but locals aren't bothered because they've adapted.
    Try the suggestions on the BTA (or your local support) website, experiment and you'll eventually find a solution which works for you. Keep going with sleepio. It'll all take time, but be of good cheer, you'll find a way.

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    As if there's not enough to deal with in curing our insomnia, this adds to it! I noticed mine ramped up lately to a higher amount of dB so that I am aware of it and despite my gentle pleas for it to go away, it just ignores me! Yes, I do agree that it has to be related to anxiety. So that explains it. So deal with anxiety and we can reduce the tinnitus. Right?

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    The more you try to get tinnitus to go away, the more it comes at you. Learning to ignore it is the best strategy but that isn't easy. People try all kinds of stratagems. What worked with me was a programme from an American specialist which was a bit like the prof's progressive relaxation, I slowly learnt how relax physically and mentally in response to the tinnitus stress.
    The insomnia I suffered from then was worse than my more recent bout, so the positive side of it is that it's given me perspective.
    So, you're right – deal with the anxiety. I hope yours doesn't trouble you too much. There are always ways of dealing with it.

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    Thanks Special Guy. I see how you have dealt with this in a positive way and have shared your experience with others here. In the brief time I have noticed this increase, it seems to decline at other times. Maybe because I understand there is no “cure” for it and like insomnia, we have to manage it as best we can. I do try to ignore it. The times I have jokingly told it to go away I knew that would not work. In fact, it might have made it last longer. I thought it might be aggravated by continuous noise as well as anxiety, but assume it's mainly anxiety. I am grateful that it hasn't resulted in less sleep and that kind of amazes me.

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    Hi California Man
    Tinnitus is like a beast that attacks the more you're scared of it. It's good it hasn't affected your sleep and that, overall, you seem to be coping well. Doctors can be the least helpful people to help with it, they just stress the incurability rather than the ways you can cope with it and even nullify it.

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    Spec, you are one WISE dude. I think you are a writer, and I see that you know a lot and could help a lot of people by combining this knowledge with your ability to write. If you are not now a writer, then this is something you can do. Absolutely.

    I agree that docs have a hard time dealing with mind stuff. Guess this is one of them. Your analogy about fear is right on. Lately it pops up and seems loud. I don't like it but try to say Go Away a few times, knowing that won't do a thing. It waxes and wanes like the moon, only on an hourly cycle.

    I know that in my case it is linked to my anxiety, so that's what I have to deal with. That too is a devil in that it has many heads. The sleep related head and the others.

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    hi I've had tinnitus for over twenty years and just ignored it, but since developing insomnia a year ago it has ramped up very loudly and very irritating… obviously due to not sleeping and also hearing going slightly but it has also changed pitch as well which is horrendous. I'm assuming i i can get more sleep it might revert back to way it was

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    I've developed tinnitus over the past couple of years. Had my hearing tested and it's completely fine. The audiologist also measured the pressure in the eustachian tubes and found it is elevated a bit. There is no treatment for this--and antihistamines do not help me. I heard recently that aspirin and pain relievers, as well as some antidepressants, can trigger tinnitus. I've been taking naproxen and an antidepressant for a couple of years now and am planning to taper off (with my doc's supervision, of course!) to see whether it has a positive effect. Oh, and there's an ear-health supplement containing bioflavanoids and vitamins that apparently helps some people.

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    Hi Colin Sorry, I meant to reply to this some days ago. Sorry your tinnitus has got worse – mine did some years ago and it wasn't fun. But I slowly got on top of it by doing a stress-reduction programme which involved a series of breathing, relaxation and imaging exercises through the day. It took a month or so to start to work, but gradually it ceased to bother me and I began to sleep again. Have you tried the British Tinnitus Association? They offer support and advice. There's plenty you can do about it. Doctors tend to be hopeless and just tell you it's incurable, which doesn't help. It's an emotional and psychological problem. To me, it's similar to insomnia and can be nullified by relaxation and positive thinking. The subconscious mind adapts to it effectively but it does take time.

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    Hi Kec
    Good luck with your search for a treatment for your tinnitus. What helped me in the long run was a programme designed to aid relaxing and breathing. Have you tried the British Tinnitus Association? I found them invaluable. Be of good cheer, the symptoms often get better as we adjust. My tinnitus drove me crazy for a while, now it's scarcely a problem.

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    Hi all – sleeps slowly improving but I am being bothered by a bout of tinnitus …..have has this for years actually. Was just wondering if there are any hot tips out there for dealing with tinnitus. Another member (Colin) mentioned on another thread about Mindfulness and dealing with thoughts like noise…..I would love to know more about this Colin, if you are out there!!! It sounded like a great strategy – not necessarily just for tinnitus but also for helping the racing mind. Thanks all!

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    Hi RH,
    tinnitus is bothersome isn't it.

    Someone suggested if you increase the blood flow to the area surrounding the ears it might help as possibly when you're anxious, stressed or not sleeping well the neck muscles tense up and blood flow can get somewhat restricted (a wee bit). Theres points below ear , behind ear and the hollow right in front of your ear that your can rub in small circles 50 times each. and cup hands over ears and tap fingers on skull behind ear. Also massage along the base of the skull on the back of the neck. (don't suppose it'll make much difference if you're still quite tense, stressed etc)

    Im trying reflexology for it just now… can't imagine it'll help but its very relaxing never the less. My tinnitus has got very bad over past couple of months as has my tense/sore neck muscles and sleep pretty rubbish too.

    Desperately seeking solutions too.

    Cheers

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    Hi
    Sorry your tinnitus is still bothering you. I think you're doing the right thing by experimenting with treatments, to find something that works for you. I was initially very sceptical of a relaxation programme I took up, but I stuck with it and it ultimately reduced my tinnitus to a level in which I'm barely aware of it most of the time. If you want me to post you the ten step programme I'd be happy.
    What also helped me was reading that our unconscious minds tend to adjust to tinnitus over time (it's like learning to sleep through a ticking clock), which was a bit antidote to all the unhelpful “It's incurable” mantras of much of the medical profession.
    I'm sure finding a way to relax your tense neck muscles will help. Best of luck, you'll find a way.

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    Hi all,

    Has anyone tried Lipo-Flavonoid for tinnitus? I've been reading about it, and wondering if it works?

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    Hi cde5476
    No, I haven't tried that remedy. I'm glad to say that, although my tinnitus is still there, these days it hardly bothers me. I guess it's the subconscious mind adjusting.
    Good luck with the lipo-flavonoid, and hope your symptoms gradually improve like mine.

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    Ya, Ive been using this app on my iPhone for tinnitus. Although I'm a little suspect on how well its working for me.

    From what I've read, Lipo-Flavonoid increases blood flow to the ears and somehow that helps decrease or get rid of the ringing all together. I don't know if this is just some sort of marketing ploy or if it really works?

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    Hi all just found the link to Tinnitus Sufferers ! Been reading some of the messages will try out some of the techniques I've had it for years . Really bothering me at night time but being on the Sleepio course seems to obf helped after five weeks and graduating My percentages finished well into the 90s and was sleeping really well except the last couple of nights and my sleep has been a bit mixed and the tinnitus has been really prominent ! So I'm gong through all the techniques and hoping that it is only a short blip I really hope the rest of you sufferers get some peace from it ? I'm going to the E.N.T. Dept to see if they have anymore ideas in October if I find anything that helps I will post it on here . Wishing you all a peaceful time.

    Trevor.

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    Hi folks as promised I went to E.N.T today but didn't find any new suggestions only what basically has already been covered on the Sleepio programme unfortunately !
    So I will carry on like I have recently , fortunately with the course I am sleeping much better.
    Sleep well everyone.
    Trevor.

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    Hello everyone, one of the things I have used that's recommended by tinnitus.org is a CD “sounds of deal beach” it's been recorded especially for tinnitus sufferers using a pure way of capturing the sound and its excellent. I was listening to a programme on the BBC and they said that tinnitus was one of the major cause of suicide. They recreated some of the noises that some of the sufferers had to endure and what I experience pales into significants. The CD is worth a try, I've read the posting policy and I don't think I'm breaking any rules giving the name of the CD. Hope not.

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