I am noticing that if I have anything sugary to eat or drink in the evening I am more likely to have disturbed sleep. I am now able to return to sleep quickly but wake feeling 'hung over' and unrefreshed. Has anyone else noticed this?
I am also upping my activity during the day to try to make my body ready for sleep – I am sleeping better and have a sleep efficiency over 90% ... But still waking unrefreshed :( I am anylysing everything to enable me to wake refreshed :)
Do you feel better later in the am? It can take me sometime to “come-to” but the am should be and usually is my best and most energetic time as I'm a lark. 90%+ is impressive.
Hi Suella I start to 'come round' mid afternoon – Previuolsy I always was a natural lark and early to bed early to rise kind of girl – with bucket loads of energy. If I can get feel half as energetic as I used too it would help. I went cycling yesterday and covered 12 1/2 miles but needed the rest of the day to recover. Being chronically tired affects every aspect of my life from being efficient at work, household chores and social and recreational activities. I just try to carry on as normal as I can under the circumstances.
No not Sleepio. It was on Food Hospital Channel 1V in October. One or two of us here are trying it. Some think it helps. Kiwis are rich in tryptophans which are precursors for serotonin which triggers sleep.
Some research was done. What's the harm?
I have heard about the kiwi trick but it does seem strange to eat fruit at night – I always believed this was unhealthy for the body, bananas perhaps being the exception as they are supposed to be sleep-inducing. I have tried a carb-rich snack as recommended by the community and that does seem to help, though not with my waistline!
Hello everyone here's a link to a good site that lists 7 good foods for good sleep
hopefully this will help someone
All the best…......Andy
In the past year I've been experimenting with my diet, to see how it would affect (improve) my sleep.
One of the things I did, was go 'paleo' in combination with very low carb (at most 30 usable grams per day, from vegetables). While my physique improved (less fat), my sleep did not improve.
Then, I added carbs, and specifically carbs in the evening. I noticed: – when I eat too many carbs (>200 g) I won't be able to sleep. (high body temperature, faster heart rate) – when I eat the right amount of carbs (100 g) I can sleep.. (but not consistently)
One of the things I've read is that some carbs are required to get the tryptophane through the blood-brain barrier?
Currently, my diet is: low carb all day, except for an hour before I go to bed. Then I eat one ripe banana.
Now, this is all based on n=1, so I wonder if more (scientific) information or experiences (from people here) is/are available about the influence of diet on sleep? Or people who also eat low-carb or Paleo?
I've been told over and over to go on paleo if I want sleep, but never could commit. Plus, I don't feel like I should have to change drastic parts of my life to sleep since I slept just fine before.
I am convinced through this program that when chronic insomnia occurs doing things differently can help, but what really needs to happen is a shock to the system and a resetting of the sleep clock (which SR does). I have literally tried everything, I did try Paleo for a week with no results…and sleepio is the ONLY 100% natural thing that seems promising.
I do know that the liver performs some function around 3-4am and it is suggested to eat some protein before bed to assist with this. Might wanna google that to get more info. But really, you eat well, you exercise…I would suggest focusing on the sleepio program before worrying too much about changing everything else!
I was so glad to read your post! I thought I was being neurotic because my sleep efficiency is 90% too but I still feel like I spend way too much time awake at night. I wake up 8 to 10 times every night! Did you find any solutions?
Seth Roberts has a blog (Seth's blog) and has blogged recently on his and others experience with a teaspoon to tablespoon of honey right before bed and how it helps with sleep. Anyone have knowledge / experience with honey (Robert's says it is specifically honey – not carbs or sugar in general).
here's an article about influence of hi-GI ('dirty') carbs on sleep onset:
summary: hi-GI carbs 4 hrs before bedtime can reduce sleep onset.
I go to a self-help group (not for sleep) on Monday nights and there are always lots of biscuits, sweets, grapes and chocolatey things on offer. I have noticed that when I eat a lot of them (I can't help myself but I guess I will have to try!) my sleep is worse. Also, I think I am quite 'buzzy' from the talking, being with friends etc and that affects my adrenaline levels.
I have not noticed a correlation between sweet things and sleep but want to know if others are affected by alcohol and sleep. I'm not talking about drinking loads, but I have noticed a definite dip in the quality of sleep if I drink even a glass of wine – and one glass is hard. It is a bit of a catch 22 situation I find – that alcohol helps get to sleep but not stay asleep or sleep well. I do like the occasional glass – how have others found it?
Just noticed article on research into omega 3 helped kids sleep better….
....‘For example, lower ratios of DHA have been linked with lower levels of melatonin, and that would fit with our finding that sleep problems are greater in children with lower levels of DHA in their blood.’.... Wonder if this relates to adults too…..
Mind you oily fish in diet is good for you anyway
I've just noticed your comment about eating sugary snacks and also going to the self-help group. I'm no expert on the food stuff – but I know that whenever I have any social interaction in the evening, especially if it's after 10.00pm, I have to spend a couple of hrs winding down before going to bed. I hadn't ever really thought of it as adreneline, but, come to think of it, that's what it feels like – an energised, 'buzzy' feeling. I even stopped answering the phone after about 8.00pm, in case it was someone who wanted to talk for an hour! It makes having a social life very difficult, and can mean a very late bed time sometimes. I really envy people who can just switch off!
Hi all. I recently posted a similar discussion – sorry I missed this one!
I actually gave up sugar about 5-6 weeks ago – which is exactly when my sleep problems began.
From the reading that I've done, if your blood sugar gets too low at night, your body produces too much of the stress hormone at around 3-4am, which wakes you up. This was interesting to me as my blood sugar must be a lot lower than it was before.
I have however now added fruits back to my diet and tried snacks before bed – but this isn't helping. Seems it's put me into a bit of a pattern of waking up at 4am every night (and 2am too if i'm lucky!).
My lack of sleep causes me to overeat. Suggestions for help?
Hi darbydoo, wondering if the waking time of 3-4 could just be because you are coming out of deep sleep, so a natural lightening of sleep makes you wake up then. I have this 3-4 waking time and have challenged myself to consider it a normal event so I feel more relaxed about it. I then do the getting back to sleep exercises especially one doing alphabet categorising. Not much help for you re the blood sugar but hey ho good luck.
Hey there, Gogokhulu,
Sadly this page hasn’t seen any action since just over a year ago. Darbydoo hasn’t been on the website since 2015, so I don’t think you’ll get any response 8(
But as an aside, I get a 'natural' awakening at 5.00 each morning but just tell myself it’s fine to have more sleep, so I turn over and usually go off again for another hour.
(Btw, I gave up carbs, sugars and processed foods about ten weeks ago and don’t have any sugar-highs or lows!)
Best sleepio wishes!
Hi, Regarding sugar and carbs I just wanted to add that after a really bad year of sleep coinciding with the menopause, I completely cut out sugar (but not fruit) from my diet and reached 4 hours of continuous sleep. I then cut out white spuds, white rice, white pasta etc. I also switched to making 100% wholemeal bread in my bread machine using organic flour and am now up to 6 hours continuous sleep. Still experimenting with food to try and find more improvements. Hope this helps someone.