Sleeping with your bed partner

How did you guys handle sleeping with a bed partner? Every time I get sleep he would move and I would be wide awake. I did sleepio course before and sleep counseling while sleeping in a separate bedroom but it really put stress on our relationship. It was like we were just roommates. My sleep did improve while I was sleeping alone but as soon as I tried to sleep in the same bed as my husband, the insomnia all came back. I think it is now worse than ever. So I am desperate and I have a 1 yr old to take care of during the day. I am trying the sleepio course again but this time remaining in the same bed as my husband. However, I am not sleeping. Any advice is appreciated

Posted 6 Feb 2013 at 10:05 AM
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  • Sleepio Member

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    My partner and started sleeping in separate rooms because our sleep patterns were so different. This was well before I did the sleepio course but we still do. We like it! It means we can both go to bed and get up when we want, and if we wake in the night there is no problem about putting the light and/or radio on. I always go through to his room in the morning once I know he is awake (he sleeps longer than I do) for a cuddle, etc!

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    Congratulations on your new relationship and plans to live together, especially after the sad years after losing your husband. I think it might be good not to put pressure on yourself about the importance of actually literally sleeping side by side. It would be nice if you achieve that eventually but maybe work on your insomnia first. You can still share a bed for the important relationship stuff :) ..... But maybe sleep separately until all the anxiety about insomnia is sorted.
    My sleep is loads better now after Sleepio but I'm still easily disturbed by my husband's restlessness or worry about disturbing him myself. We have a super size bed that has 2 separate mattresses zipped together and separate duvets. It really helps be together but separate. Though we have no problem with going back to different rooms if I have insomnia blips.
    I wish you all the best. Keep us up to date with how you're going on. X

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    I'm also having issues sleeping with my partner. At the moment we live in separate houses, so she only sleeps over around 3 times a week, but on these nights I sleep poorly, wake up often and have trouble falling back asleep. She is a very quiet sleeper and doesn't move around a lot at all, however just knowing that someone else is in the bed is causing me to worry about sleeping. It could be anybody else, it almost feels as if just the fact that they are there is putting pressure on me to go to sleep. Does anyone have any suggestions? Separate blankets is a good one.

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    That's really thoughtful of you, worrying more about the effect on your partner than you are about your own sleeplessness. If you can't get back to sleep, then it's best to get out of bed till you feel sleepy again. The worst thing to do is to lie there desperately trying to sleep, worrying about fidgeting and disturbing her, and feeling despair about your sleep.
    As you progress through the course there are tools to help you deal with those negative thought spirals, as well as the work on consolidating your sleep. The CBT approach is very powerful alongside the work on improving sleep, but it does take time. You may not get the sleep you want for another few weeks, but be reassured that the change does stick.

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    Hi ikaboka,
    I realize that having your partner over 3 times a week may mean you might not appreciate the following idea, which is to sleep in separate beds, if available. A number of members have done just that as that they go through the program and have found that it relieves their anxiety about sleep somewhat so they can focus on improving their sleep. Just something for consideration. This of course doesn't mean one can't have their “snuggle” time in bed together, it just means removing yourself from the bed and sleeping somewhere else.
    anniem

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    Thank you for all of your comments, Marie Elaine and Anniem. I find that a big problem is that some nights I am actually able to get a decent sleep (6 hours) and others I lie there awake. So I never know what to expect and always try think that I will get some decent sleep (although that doesnt always happen). Unfortunately I don't have another bed room in the house, so we cannot sleep in different beds.
    Perhaps Marie Elaine, your suggestion is best – to get up out of bed and come back when I am more relaxed and tired.

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    A king size bed has made a huge difference for me because with it I am not able to feel the mattress move if he's restless at all. I also feel less self-conscious about my own restlessness possibly waking him up, even though he sleeps like a rock. His snoring is still an issue for me though – working on that one as ear plugs hurt my ears after more than one night.

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    I have found that having a king size bed essential. if on holiday we always try for twin beds. My husband has frequent nightmares or noisy dreams so space is crucial. also earplugs!

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    Hi denised, its worth shopping around online for different types of ear plugs. There are some (sorry I don't know the name) that are yellow and pink stripy and VERY soft and squidgy. I find they don't work as well as the SCAN ones that are like little orange bullets, but I change between the two types to give my ears a rest.

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    Marie Elaine, I will look for the yellow and pink stripey ones. I tried the clear silicone ones last night that I think were gentler though harder to get in place since they don't fit in the ear the same way.

  • Sleepio Member

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    Insomnia in the double bed has been a real problem for me for. To get back in the double bed, with Sleep window ending 5.30am I needed an alarm to make sure I didn't overshoot it some days. But not waking up my wife. Even a vibration alarm under the pillow woke her. But I found a Casio watch alarm £27 in Argos with Vibration alarm function seems to work for me. Maybe this info could be useful for someone.

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    My husband is a real fidget in bed. He falls asleep before his head hits the pillow and will sleep for weeks if it was not for the alarm clock (ok for some isn't ?). He throws himself around the bed all night and it really disturbs me (he has some sensory/neurological problems in that all movements he does are exaggerated so a gentle roll over is impossible for him). I have suggested separate beds but he gets annoyed and says we may as well not be married if we do that. He does not see it as his problem and states I am the light sleeper, empathy is a major problem for him. Tbh it is not so much that I am a light sleeper it is that he is such an aggressive fidget. His fidgeting is not the root cause of my worst sleep problems but it does not help. It has disturbed me for many years so maybe it was inevitable that I would end up with major sleep problems eventually. I would love separate beds (or rooms would be even better). Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

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    Hi sleepypuss, I haven't been on here for a long while, but I had to offer something to your plea as I think it must be incredibly challenging for you. I'm one of the lucky ones with a supportive spouse. Here are a couple of suggestions based on our experience:

    1. Sleeping separately doesn't have to be forever…your husband could think of it as a short-term treatment for you…and it will benefit you both. We slept separately during the course and for several weeks afterwards. This was crucial for my ability to complete the course as my husband twitches all night, and once I'm awake, I can't get back to sleep. After the course (well it took about 6 months to be honest, but it did work…the brain just takes time to retrain), my sleep is much better and I can now sleep through his smaller twitches and can get back to sleep after his larger ones (using sleepio and sleep meditation techniques). When I am well rested, I am happier and easier to live with…so sleeping apart has benefits to both of us. Maybe it would help your husband to know that others have gone through the training with separate beds, but have been able to sleep together once sleep has improved. We still occasionally sleep separately if I have had a couple of bad nights in a row. Then it's all the nicer when we get to share.

    2. If that doesn't work, have you tried separation within the bed? We find that separate quilts really helps--when he twitches the cover off, I notice much less if I have my own quilt. I also found that having a thin extra mattress (a thermarest) on my side added some separation that kept him on his side even during his sleep. We tried putting a divider between us, but it was a bit intrusive. Separate quilts seems the easiest step. You can even put yours on once he's asleep, so he wouldn't even notice.

    I see that you're in week 3. The next few weeks will be very challenging, particularly without support at home. Ask for help from the sleepio community if you need it. I don't check up here very much any more, but if you write a question to my profile, it'll come into my personal email and I will respond.

    Good luck, Karen P

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    We have also gone back to blankets instead of a duvet as I'm always hot. We have one blanket that covers the whole bed and 4 individual throws and move them during the night as necessary. We're both amazed at how this small change helps, no more laying under a huge duvet sweating to death or throwing it off and freezing 10 minutes later!

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    I really relate to this. My husband and I actually slept separately for an extended period of time, which helped me. Unfortunately, he began to grow resentful (the futon was not the most comfortable for him and the “temporary” arrangement was becoming long term) so we bought a king bed. This has been a good start, but now all I can hear is his breathing! It's not really a snore, more of just a heavy breathing which I get fixated on. I have a sound machine and I tried ear plugs. The plugs are good, but I want to be able to hear our preschooler on the 2nd floor when she cries out. So, I'm struggling but planning to try the “conditioning” method of recording his breathing and playing it so that I become “immune” to it.

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    I'm on my third week and the “hard bit” I've reduced the amount of time I am in bed with rather bad consequences. I'm waking up the same amount but in a shorter space of time and I'm literally now unable to function properly. I'm getting maybe 1-2 hours a night of sleep.

    I think the reason is the program doesn't take into account the other person in the relationship regarding sleep. My wife also has major problems with sleep and also suffers from Fibromyalgia. This means that I believe I wake up because she is waking me up, not on purpose but that doesn't effect the outcome anyway. Therefore the decreasing the amount of time in bed for me really doesn't change anything.

    I think I will still read the tips etc to help get me back on track but the reduction of the hours in bed is really screwing it up for me.

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    Hello all,

    I have been suffering with insomnia for around a year now which was linked to a highly stressful job and then redundancy.

    After using sleeping tablets, CBT counselling and now I am on amitriptyline 10mg to help me sleep I am finally sleeping and have been for 2 months.

    Although all of this has seemed to have brought on an problem with staying in the same bed as my partner.

    Through my bad patch he stayed on the sofa as I kept disrupting him and he said it would be better. Now when he is in the bed I'm immediately thinking I won't sleep well tonight because he is in the bed and that I will sleep better without him there.

    Now my issue is he stays on the sofa and I get a good night sleep or he is in the bed, I try for about 2 hours to get to sleep then he moves to the sofa.

    I don't know why this is such a problem for me and what I can do to help !!

    Has anyone else faced this?

    Thanks
    K

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    How did everyone get over this problem? I am having the same problems now. On week 2 of the course at the moment.

    Thanks

    K

  • Sleepio Member

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    Hi Kmark
    Yes the bed partner can be a problem when the sleep deprivation window hits in week 3
    Some people find they have to sleep apart during this time as it is too disruptive for both parties
    Once the window gets bigger you can integrate back
    into the same bed
    Is this an option ?
    The other suggestion is the partner go to bed first so they are asleep before you get there
    Guess it depends on who is keeping who awake or is it both of you that will be affected
    These aren't wonderful solutions but they do seem to work
    My husband and I are back in the same bed again now but unfortunately had to sleep apart for a few months until my window was wide enough
    We tried staying together but neither of us were sleeping well
    I really worried about this too like you are but it all worked well and we are finally back to normal :)
    Best wishes with this

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    I think my husband is raising the thermostat up after I go to bed thinking I won't notice. I am struggling enough as it is without this BS! How to have a heart-to-heart with hubby over this super big issue is going to be challenging. Any suggestions?

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