Sleeping and Mirtazapine (and other sleep aids)

I am really interested to hear of other Sleepio users experiences with Mirtazapine good or bad?

I was put on this to help with sleep back in June and to honest it's hit and miss with it! I've tried to come off it twice but ended up with horrendous low mood, insomnia and nausea and anxiety so took it again. If anyone is on it currently how are you finding it whilst doing Sleepio or if anyone has graduated from Sleepio and then withdrawn from it I'd be very keen to hear from you too please.

Posted 18 Dec 2013 at 10:11 AM
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  • Sleepio Member

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    My doctor prescribed 300mg of Gabapentin. I've been one it for a few days-she said it wouldn't impact my sleep until I've been on it a few weeks. Anyone else tried this? Also, my doctor said sleep restriction works better for those who have trouble falling asleep rather than those who have trouble staying asleep. Any thoughts?

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    This is only my experience but be very careful of this drug and why doctors prescribe it. I was on one AD, duloxetine, for nerve pain, an old TMJ problem, came off it cos it gave me nightmares, and eventually put on mirtazapine. Thought it was just another antidepressant, with the added advantage that it helps with sleep. But it did me no good -- just complicated everything,. I was reluctant to come off because of the sleep, but eventually did, on my partner's advice and encouragement (after 3 months on it) and then had to put up with withdrawal insomnia, which I'm just beginning to get over (6 weeks with almost no natural sleep). Reading the stuff on internet sites, you gather doctors and patients love the double effect. But it's no miracle, it's just an antihistamine tacked on to a -- major -- antidepressant. In other words, another sleeping pill, and addictive or habitforming like all sleeping pills -- with insomnia when you stop them. And the antidepressant bit just isn't suitable or right for a lot of people like me, low because of persistent medium grade pain. So be sure you know what you're getting and what you want, and ABOVE ALL be aware (I wasnt) that coming off these things isn't easy. I dropped them, pretty much cold turkey, in early January, and only now I'm BEGINNING to feel free ( i was on 15mg for 3 months). Internet sites are full of bad experiences, and it makes you wonder what some GPs are about.

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    This has all been very interesting to read. I've been suffering increased anxiety and heart palpitations at night since I turned 50. I've been on temazepam since November, which clearly wasn't working any more, as I could only sleep for maybe 3 hours before having some kind of heart events. I've also exhibited other symptoms of general anxiety disorder. My new psychiatrist has just put me on Remeron for primarily anxiety/depression, but only secondarily for sleep. My sleep doctor said that was fine and that I could cut the temazepam in half if I'm too groggy. I'm probably going to do that because this is Day 2 and I'm super groggy.

    I'm resigned to needing some kind of anti-anxiety or antidepressant medication. I'd love to live without it, but perimenopause has made that impossible, even with HRT. Maybe once I hit menopause and my hormones even out, I can try living pill free. (That could happen within the next couple of years.) I'm on Omada, a health program where I have to account for every calorie, and I work out, so hopefully I won't be eating too much as a result of medication.

    LM

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    Issues with using Clonazepam or Sleeping pills to help settle restless legs to aid sleep.

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    I'm currently taking mirtazapine, which was prescribed for insomnia and depression. My insomnia is maintenance insomnia; at 3-3:30 am I am wide awake and then have some trouble falling back asleep. The first month on it (15mg) was amazing, I was finally able to sleep through the whole night without waking until morning. Then I started waking up at 3 every night again. My doctor first raised the dose to 30mg, which didn't help as I kept waking at 3. Now I'm down to 7.5mg and would like to stop completely soon.

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    when I started sleepy oh, I was taking 1 mg of Ativan at bedtime, and another 1 mg in the middle of the night when I would wake up to go to the bathroom. Working with my doctor, I very slowly tapered down on these pills. I cut the pills in quarters, and started taking a quarter less at each time. After about six months, I was taking no pills at all at bedtime, and a quarter of a milligram in the middle of the night. Using the various techniques in Sleepio has helped me to sleep better without needing the pills. I hope you find the same success. But please, do work with your doctor.

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    when I started sleepy oh, I was taking 1 mg of Ativan at bedtime, and another 1 mg in the middle of the night when I would wake up to go to the bathroom. Working with my doctor, I very slowly tapered down on these pills. I cut the pills in quarters, and started taking a quarter less at each time. After about six months, I was taking no pills at all at bedtime, and a quarter of a milligram in the middle of the night. Using the various techniques in Sleepio has helped me to sleep better without needing the pills. I hope you find the same success. But please, do work with your doctor.

  • Sleepio Member

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    when I started sleepy oh, I was taking 1 mg of Ativan at bedtime, and another 1 mg in the middle of the night when I would wake up to go to the bathroom. Working with my doctor, I very slowly tapered down on these pills. I cut the pills in quarters, and started taking a quarter less at each time. After about six months, I was taking no pills at all at bedtime, and a quarter of a milligram in the middle of the night. Using the various techniques in Sleepio has helped me to sleep better without needing the pills. I hope you find the same success. But please, do work with your doctor.

  • Sleepio Member

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    I tried Mirtazapine as a sleep aid. The first time I had been warned they were strong so I took a quarter tablet and slept soundly through the night but could not shake the effects of the medication off until late the next day. Next time I shaved off a piece the size of a grain of salt. I slept well with no effects hanging on after I awoke. I used the the med this way for a while but stopped taking it when I read about rebound insomnia people experience when they stop it.

  • Sleepio Member

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    Don't touch the stuff, it is evil. I literally got hooked within 3 weeks of starting it as initially it worked a treat, so well I thought on my days off I would be a sleep hog and just keep taking them whenever I felt like having a sleep. I specifically asked my doctor to help with something non-addictive and he gave me this stuff. It is addictive, it is habit forming, and it is like all things addictive hard to stop without some sort of withdrawals. I have joined Sleepio, another online wellness platform for other issues, and have an appointment with my GP next week where I am going to give him a spray for doing this to me. As soon as I started feeling depressed I knew something was wrong and the nice sleep sensation didn't last long and was what influenced me to overuses it. I did some reading and soon found to my horror that if I had known even some of the side effects or stories in user reviews I would have screwed the prescription up. I now have to wean myself off something and have the associated withdrawals when there was no need for it. I believe I would have been better of with melatonin or something less powerful and less mind altering with the dreams, less harsh with the need to increase dosage so soon, and for generally making me feel like shite.

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    I used Mirtazapine as they told me it was non-addictive. While it is true your body doesn't get addicted to it like a benzo, you can still become dependent on it. I used 7.5mg for four days and on the fourth day, it quit working. So my doctor told me to up the dose to 15mg. I did so for two days and both following days I felt like a walking zombie. I had to quit taking them as I couldn't do my job.

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    I take Mirtazapine 45mg for anxiety and depression I don't think it ever helped me with sleep, (the higher the dose the less it helps with sleep). I want to come off it but my GP has been reluctant to swap to something else and I know i'd have to taper off – reading the withdrawal side-affects I am very worried about doing so, but it doesn't appear to working for my anxiety/depression.

  • Sleepio Member

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    Yes I wish I hadn’t taken it when prescribed for work induced stress/anxiety issues about 4years ago. It did seem to work but even though I reduced gradually as told a year ago I had severe withdrawal symptoms especially insomnia. Only then I looked up on line and found mine were classic symptoms that no one had told me about. I started Sleepio in March and now feel I’m more in control. That and mindfulness seems to be working though still a bit up and down which I guess is to be expected and at the start it is very tough but hang in, it does improve.

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    Going to start tapering off Mirtazpine tonight over the next 4 weeks, if anyone has any advise I'd be very grateful.

  • Sleepio Member

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    Since you’re taking it for anxiety and not insomnia, I’m not sure my experience is relevant, but here goes. I was on Ativan for insomnia for over 10 years. After a couple months in sleepio, I talked to my doctor about tapering off. He suggested cutting the pills in half, but I wasn’t brave enough. I cut them in quarters. I started taking a quarter less, for a few weeks or longer until I was brave enough to make the next reduction. It took at least 6 months to get off of them. After each reduction, I’d have a few nights or more of disrupted sleep, and then I’d settle down.

    If you use this for anxiety and depression, and not insomnia, I don’t know if you will get any better sleep after reducing or eliminating your pills. And if it’s not working for anxiety and depression, then I would think your doctor would want you to try something else. Maybe you need to push the envelope.

  • Sleepio Member

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    I was treated for postnatL depression and issue with sleep, I could literally stay awake all the time, when the baby slept like a log! I think at the time it was the right decision for me to take it, it helped me relax and sleep. I believe if you take yourself off it, then make sure your you do so gradually I did suffer with rebound insomnia for another 2 weeks which was grim, but yes I felt I was using the tablets as a way to sleep as I had no other method to use which would work, But in hindsight right decision at the time, I don’t regret this, just glad I found Sleepio.

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    My gp has advised I taper off them over the next 4 weeks, I have dropped to 30mg this week, next week will be 15mg. I have noticed I am more anxious, more worry, sleep reduced, but Im taking sleeping tablets so that helps me get some sleep. I am currently signed off work with Anxiety and Depression so I am trying to fix myself, whilst waiting for help from the NHS.

  • Sleepio Member

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    Remeron is the worst thing that ever happened to me. Yes, it can work for insomnia, but trying to get off of it is a complete nightmare, and the rebound insomnia can last months. I'd be very weary of what your GP prescribes or even tells you about insomnia. They tend to know nothing.With Mirt, give it a whole lot of time, eat healthy, try to maintain a positive mindframe when coming off. It was the hardest thing I've ever done. I do feel the Sleepio program is what I personally need, as my sleep schedule completely sucks and I'm all over the place with laying in bed for way too long. Good luck everyone, and again, be weary of prescription sleep aides.

  • Sleepio Member

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    Dropped down to 15mg this week and definitely feeling the effects, my mind doesn't know whats going on, feeling foggy head for most the day and very lethargic. Couldn't get out of bed, couldn't sleep last night..

  • Sleepio Member

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    I have been averaging 3 hours sleep a night for 2 months despite trying Amitriptyline and herbal remedies nothing has worked (lots of alcohol often helps but leaves me feeling awful the next day obviously

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