Night heats (and other hormonal symptoms) dont help trying to sleep

If i do get to sleep, the first time i wake, i feel my body heat up all through, especially in my back or front whatever is bed-side down, so i am constantly moving about. Goodness knows how hubby sleeps with my fidgeting…I sleep best when he holds me – i think my body instantly accepts the safety & comfort of it, but when i wake we are apart. So i do get a little sleep if we start like spoons.. but these ruddy night sweats do my head in….

If i get 4 solid hours of sleep i am amazed its normally broken sleep 1st wake around 2ish, then drifting in and out, waking around 4ish & then 5ish as hubby alarm at 5.30 then drift again till i get up around 7.15. That's when i want TO ACTUALLY SLEEP...& can't!

Posted 17 Nov 2011 at 8:28 PM
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    I wake up around 4am every night to go to the bathroom. I am so hot that I turn up the air and put the living room ceiling fan on high to help cool me down. Some nights it takes hours to cool down and get back in bed. Some nights I cool off in less than an hour and can lay back down.

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    Good morning ladies,

    I have hot flashes during the day and night sweats during the night. I have been using Black Cohosh – from Puritan Pride I order it on-line 540 mg. it does help some. I also fan myself with my night gown or the sheet at night. Sometimes if it's real bad I get up to get some cool water and stand near the more powerful fan in our kitchen.

    Hugs, Stacey

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    Teresi,

    I have never done any HRT only herbs. I use Black Cohosh. Please read my post above. I will try to help you through this emotionally. Have you tried herbs?

    Hugs, Stacey

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    Hi, is anyone else here having problems with sleep with menopause or perimenopause? I am 18 months into menopause and wake up to 15 times a night with hot flushes and having to kick off my quilt- then waking with chills a few minutes later and having to pull the quilt back on again. I rarely have hot flushes during the day. I'm awake about an hour and a half in total each night with all the hot and cold stuff, I don't stress about it and go back to sleep quickly. I'm up to the sleep restriction part of the course and I'm reluctant to do it- because I don't know if sleep restriction will help with my hot flush related waking. I have a stressful job and can't afford to be getting less sleep than I already am. I can't find any information on sleepio about sleep restriction and hot flush related waking. Is there anybody here who has used sleep restriction for this type of waking? Would love to chat with anyone else dealing with these issues.

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    My nights are much the same as yours. I am trying Sleepio in hopes to stop taking sleeping pills as I worry about the long term effects. Sleep restriction does not sound very inviting to me either since I get so little because of night sweats, my husband snoring and bumping my dog and son's cat. My son comes in from work at 1:30 am as quit as possible.

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    I joined sleepio after many decades of insomnia and at least 10 years of using sleeping pills. With the help of my doctor, I was able to completely eliminate the pills over the course of many months. I cut the pills in quarters, and took 1/4 less each night for a period of time. My sleep was disrupted for several nights after each reduction, but once it settle down, I worked up the courage to make the next reduction. Please work with your doctor on this. Some pills can’t be cut, and you may need your pills for other reasons. I also have horrible hot flashes. During the day, they come approximately every 35 to 45 minutes, and not much different overnight. I do take hormones, but I shouldn’t, due to a family history of breast cancer. So I take half the dosage. But the hot flashes are still debilitating. Sleep restriction does help, it makes me worry less about my sleep.

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    I struggle to stay asleep because I am menopausal and I can't regulate my body temperature effectively. I can't get to sleep because I am too hot then I wake up during the night again because I'm too hot. I keep windows open or put the electric fan on which is too noisy. Then I find I'm cold which also wakes me up. I've tried buying special pillows – waste of money – and just sleeping with a top sheet – but I get cold. and wake up.

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    I'm 5 years post menopause and still getting hot flushes that wake me up. I'm pretty much exhausted constantly. I never feel rested. Sleepio has helped a little but I have ignored the waking up time. I follow the advice for winding down and falling asleep but setting an alarm to wake me up in a rare sleeping moment between hot flushes is insane. No amount of cbt will sort hot flushes out. I get more sleep than I thought I did before tracking but it's all shallow and disrupted. I have no answers. Hrt had terrible side effects and herbal stuff makes no difference. Cbd oil helped for a short time.

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    Ugh. Don’t get me started. Hysterectomy almost 20 years ago and nonstop hot flashes ever since. Every 35 to 45 minutes. All day. Every day. Soaking wet. Dripping wet. 2 sisters with 3 different breast cancers over 19 years, so I shouldn’t be on hormones. US doctors are loathe to recommend natural approaches, as they aren’t regulated by the government and haven’t been “proven” according to government standards.

    However my new on/gyn has agreed to give me megace/megesterol which is a progestin or progesterone, which works perfectly if I take it every day. Because I’m afraid of breast cancer, I take it every other day. I still get hot flashes, but they are much more mild. So I also get a mammogram and or breast mri every 6 months, so if a breast cancer does occur, it’s found very early. I feel like my hands are tied. Can’t win either way.

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    Good grief, that is very unfair! Have you tried cbd just in case it helps any?

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    Ugh, hot flashes are the worst. I heat up like a furnace at night -- always have -- so I have a small fan by my bed running all night so I can flip off the covers and cool off when I need to. We also keep the house thermostat turned down at night, so the bedroom is cool.

    I had a long talk with my gynecologist about various treatments when I first started having hot flashes. She wasn't keen on using hormones because of my family history of heart disease and the fact that hot flashes come right back when you go off of them. We researched some herbal preps with phytoestrogens in them, and I found one that helped a bit when the hot flashes were the worst. Eventually the hot flashes declined and I went off of them. Personally I try to use as few meds as I can, even herbal ones, because “natural” is not a synonym for “safe.”

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    CBD is so new, that it’s like “the Wild, Wild West”. There’s no way to know what’s safe and effective because, again, in the US, it’s not regulated by the government and not tested for safety or effectiveness. Manufacturers could call it CBD but use parsley. I’m not saying they do, but I’m sure there are some unscrupulous characters out to make a quick buck.

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    I have suffered with bad sleep ever since starting the perimenopause 10 years ago. At first I literally used to wake up wet through with sweat but strangely it never woke me up, now, however, I have a flush and I'm awake. Sometimes I can just turn over and go back to sleep but others I just lay awake for hours. Tried everything natural as I'm not a fan of HRT, Sage, Soy, Menopace, Black Cohosh nothing works. Black Cohosh actually caused me to flush constantly! That was why I jumped on the opportunity to try out sleepio through my employer during the pandemic. First night on week 3 of the sleepio course and last night has to be the worst night I've had in years! Got about 3 hours total! I think the problem was it recommended that I go to bed around midnight whereas I normally go around 10. Just didn't work for me last night so I'm going to bring my bedtime forward. I'd rather get up earlier than go to be later so hopefully that will work. Good sleeping everyone and stay safe.

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    Hi Strawgirl, I’m so sorry you have had such a long time with the hot flushes.
    I also suffer with them…not great :(
    Then last year, my neighbour (a man) was having hormone treatment for his type of prostate cancer. His consultant at Addenbrookes hospital, Cambridge U.K. suggested sage oil for the hot flushes he was going through l. He tried it and it was ineffective. She (consultant) then said try sage leaf tablets, which he took and swears by them…so when he saw how bad my flushes were, he suggested them to me.
    I’ve been taking them since about June last year; they took a while to have any effect but then the flushes seemed to get better and less frequent at night. Then they started getting even better during the day! I then forgot for a couple of weeks holiday and it all started again…so am back on them!

    Regarding SR and Session 3 of sleepio…it’s hard, we all know it’s really hard :( but it was only your first night so try and stick with it. I promise I am on 6-7 hours a night now from originally only getting 2.5-4 hours a night last year. I’ve even been away at Christmas and had to stay up til 1.00 and be up at 6.00 each morning…in my relatives' home….that was a bit of a nightmare, staying up whilst everyone else had gone off to bed….plus the alcohol at Christmas!!
    But I managed it and You can too 8))
    Try to stick to the Sleepio rules. They do work they’re just hard but we must get rid of our bad habits for sleeping and work on these new ones.
    Have a really good think of relaxing things you can do for your wind down period after everyone else has gone to bed. I crochet, do puzzles in a book, read (nothing too heavy to stimulate the brain too much) and I do a bit of tai chi that I’ve found on YouTube. Another sleepio said she missed her classes and is doing them online.

    There are other new sleepios who have joined the same time as you, Heather8 is one of them…so if you go into the Community page with the rolling banner, and type her name in the search bar it’ll take you to a user page…just click on her name and you can go to her profile page and introduce yourself.
    If you also go on your own profile page – and leave a message it will be seen by all sleeepios on the rolling banner then others can reach out to you too!
    Hope this helps :)

    If you have any other questions, just click on my name and you can ask me…am happy to help.
    Kurly :)

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    Is there any advice anyone can give around improving sleep associated with PMS?

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    Hi SSS1,
    The best things you can do for yourself are some of the basics the prof has gone through with you regarding sleep hygiene: having a consistent sleep schedule, avoiding excess caffeine, getting exposure to daylight – getting up at the same time every day and getting out into the earliest natural daylight possible to reset your circadian rhythm; reducing noise and light in your bedroom and developing a relaxing bedtime routine (your wind down). These are all good examples of strategies that can strengthen your sleep hygiene.

    The days before your period starts are the most common time to have sleeping problems. Steps to manage PMS such as regular exercise, a healthy diet, relaxation techniques, and drinking plenty of water, may reduce overall symptoms and make PMS easier to cope with.
    Some medications and nutritional supplements can be prescribed for more severe symptoms of PMS and these MAY contribute to improved sleep.

    Light therapy, which uses a bright lamp to affect circadian rhythm, may be beneficial for some women, but for me, getting up and out into natural daylight each day resets your circadian rhythm and is free ;))
    So if you can, you should go out for a walk, run or maybe a cycle ride – for at least half an hour in the earliest light you can. If possible go out again at midday! Getting fresh air is great, but each time you go out at different stages of the day (once more in the afternoon before dusk) it tells the body’s internal clocks what time of day it is and the body prepares once more for sleep at night time.
    Hope some of this helps and if you want to ask anything else, don’t hesitate to contact me or any of the grads 80). We are here to help each other.

    Best sleepio wishes,

    Kurly ;)

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    Kurly
    You're a brick … every time I read your posts they are helpful and supportive
    Thank you

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    Hi
    I have been having broken sleep for about 1 month. It started one day when I woke up feeling hot, from there it just got worse, both the times I would wake up, how long it took me to fall back asleep and the feeling on being hot, I now have light sweeting despite having taken off blankets. I had hormonal and thyroid test and everything seems normal. My phycologist thinks is anxiety, but I cannot find a trigger. The feeling of being hot is very real, I feel it on the parts of the body that are underneath the blankets (my mattress and blankets have been the same for 1 year, but the problem only started 1 month ago). When I wake up I take off 1 blanket or the pyjamas to cold down, after 1 hour or so I start feeling cold. I have been told that if it was due to peri menopause or menopause I would have hot flushes (feeling of being hot that raises from the chest to my face), this is not the way I experience being hot at night. Does anybody else experience the heat this way due to hormones?
    I'm desperate

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    I am getting less deep sleep, sometimes less than 3% or zero. Some of this is hormone linked I believe – menopause and reduced oestrogen. I wake usually 2-3 times/night and struggle to get back to sleep. Any ideas on how to improve deep sleep time?

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    I think I am hitting early menopause…..hot flushes night and day and its awful
    I don't sweat thank god but at night I feel like my whole body is a furnace and so unsettling.
    I have recently ordered a new mattress (sleepsoul Heaven 1000 pocket gel pillow top) its got a cooling agent in it which helps to regulate body temperature whilst in bed, also has the memory form for comfort. I so hope this will help.
    My work colleague recommended me to try Sage leaf as its proven to reduce hot flushes. Read some reports on the effects of Sage leaf and after various trials it has shown to have worked on menopause symptoms such as hot flushes within 4 weeks.
    So I have got a batch from Holland and Barrett and given them a try. Don't really want to go down the HRT route

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