Live Discussion with Dr Simon Kyle - 5th September

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Posted 29 Aug 2012 at 4:10 PM
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  • Sleepio Member

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    That sounds similar to my experiences NJ. Except I'd often fall asleep quickly, but only for up to an hour, then wake up/doze/wake up for the rest of the night

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    Sorry, I should have said I started the program from the Overcoming Insomnia book and I have joined the Sleepio program for extra support, so I am doing SRT from the book.

  • Sleepio Member

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    Definitely worthy of research!

    If only I'd known years ago how to train myself to sleep properly!!

  • Sleepio Member

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    bye nj take care sleep well

  • Sleepio Member

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    That makes sense, many thanks for the additional information about Sleep Efficiency.

  • Sleepio Member

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    thanks sleepless dave. have you been doing it long? in some ways it might be better to wait until 'The Prof' introduces it to you. at this point you will also be able to read articles with information about SR, to get some more in-depth knowledge. But to alleviate any concerns, SR can be difficult in the early stages, building up sleep pressure (through often partial sleep deprivation initially) will help you develop a strong consolidated (and less variable) sleep pattern. Always avoid driving/operating heavy machinery though if you are excessively sleep.

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    Hi Sleepless Dave, I think a few graduates bought the book before starting the course, then discovered they did better when they concentrated on the course, but used the book to help explain things…(i don't have the book, I just remember people chatting about it in the threads a while back)

  • Sleepio Member

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    Hi All, sorry I am late to the discussion!

    Two questios:
    1. To what extent is extreme anxiety (frequent panics, distressing thoughts, feeling out of place, physical symptoms) common in someone who recently realises they have insomnia?
    2. How stricy should I be with the 15 minute rule? If I am in bed and relaxed is this ok? I found myself wondering when 15 mins was up (and therefore not sleeping!)

    thanks

  • Sleepio Member

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    Finally got here during a live Session Hooray!

    thanks for your reply Dr. Kyle, I've just had my blood sugar tested as well as liver and kidney function as well. I'll see on Friday what the position is likely to be. If I wake in the small hours 2-3am usually I do have a hot water and soya milk drink and sometimes a spoonful of peanut butter. It depends when I go to sleep. I have a rather big sleep window which makes things easier for me with ME.. (I'm a great sleeper, but was waking a lot as well which isn't healthy.)

    Greetings to you all!

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    Hi there, I think the stress/anxiety symptoms are part of the insomnia in many people, certainly those I've chatted to and myself!

    The QHR is there so you DON'T lie in bed wondering how long you've been awake for!! If you're awake long enough to start thinking about it, get up & do something from your wake-up plan until you're sleepy-tired before you go back to bed!

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    physical pain for me does lead to insomnia and to some extent depression, please dont us a clock to judge the 15 minute rule

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    hello Suella good luck with the blood tests

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    thanks sleepless dave. there is certainly a strong connection between anxiety and disturbed sleep (including all the symptoms you describe), often poor sleep and anxiety go hand-in-hand, influencing each other, though not always. Good to speak to Gp about any symptoms if you're concerned about them (and if you've jsut recently noticed/been affected by them).

    the 15 minute rule is just an approximate time, we don't want you counting down the minutes or checking the clock, just a rough estimate. practicing the rule a few times, you will get the hang of it. 'The Prof' will go through these techniques in a bit more detail and introduce other techniques (like msucle relaxation) that can help put everything together, in order to maximise the most benefit. that's why it can be useful to progress through the course (and use the book as an aid, but whatever you prefer to do)

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    thanks Suella!

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    Hi Suella, good luck with the blood test results!

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    sorry folks just seen the time I have to go as I have pre-bed tasks to do before wind down time
    sleep well all and thanks for a good session Dr Kyle and thanks for you for your time too….Andy

  • Sleepio Member

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    many thanks for joining tonight everyone, good range of topics. look forward to chatting more next week. also, there will be another research bulletin coming out next week with the latest in sleep research, so keep your eyes peeled.

  • Sleepio Member

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    Thanks for your comments, they are reassuring.

  • Sleepio Member

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    Good night all, sleep well!

    Thanks Dr Kyle!

  • Sleepio Member

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    Nice to be here in the closing stages of the event. I'll try to put Sleepio Wednesdays in my diary now, as the nights are drawing in. I can't be doing the horses in the dark, so will adjust my day accordingly. It also just does happen to be my current Prof appointment day as well.

    Looking forward to the next research bulletin.

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