Live Discussion with Dr Simon Kyle - 5th December

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Posted 30 Nov 2012 at 9:37 AM
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  • Sleepio Member

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    Before Sleepio I used to get to bed around 11 and didn't have much trouble getting off to sleep as I was usually really tired anyway. Sometimes I'd go to bed earlier if I was too tired to stay up till then. Occasionaly I'd crash out after I got in from work at about 6ish although I did this as little as possible as I knew it would only make matters worse. No matter how long I've slept for though I always feel groggy after waking up and don't feel refreshed.

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    thanks nightlight – it's worth also re-visiting some of the other components, to see if they can help with reducing the likelihood of waking. Another tactic is to consider whether changing the position of the sleep window may help?

  • Sleepio Member

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    OK Dr Kyle, I'll try that.

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    Hang in there Grumpy Imp!! It can take some time to really feel the benefits of SR and then to slowly increase your sleep window.

    I graduated from sleepio at the start of this year and I can honestly say I've never felt better!! I only seem to need around 5.5-6.5 hours of sleep to feel refreshed & I usually get that every night now!

    I have noticed that I feel more sleepy now the winter is upon us though…not sure if it's the extra darkness or because it's been a really long term!

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    thanks for the input LOW

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    thanks Grumpy Imp. seems like getting into a new structured routine, with predictable sleep times, may be helpful in terms of refreshing you on awakening. Certainly some degree of sleep inertia is very normal. We found in a recent study that SR reduced feeling alert at bedtime (in time for falling asleep), while increasing mental arousal at bedtime. It may just take some more time to consolidate the new schedule.

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    Quite quiet tonight, must be the cold weather! any other topics people want to discuss/raise?

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    Cheers Laureloakwood.

    My sleep window started off at 6 hours as that's what I was roughly getting over a night but then my total sleep went down to 5 hours so I cut my sleep window to 5.5 hours but now my total sleep has gone down to 4.75 hours! Improving my sleep efficiency is like trying to look at one of those floater things in your eye. The closer you try to get to it the quicker it retreats.

    I'm going to persevere with it though come what may.

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    thanks Gumpy Imp – that's a great analogy (and I may use if it's not copyright!). It's keeping your motivation up that's important, accepting also that if you do experience a poor night, then the brain should be rewarded with intensity of sleep (not necessarily increased duration). Timing of light is important also, making sure you are getting up at the fixed time in the morning will help with this and stabilise your body clock, allowing sleep to take over.

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    My sleep efficiency is poor as well. I have only once got up to 90%, i hover in the top 70s and 80s

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    Thanks all – very interesting discussion – my favourite one so far.

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    What was your SE before you started sleepio?

    Mine varies between 70-90%, depending on the day of the week!! (I tend to have a bit of a lie-in on the weekends now, which lowers my SE.)

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    Cool. I've got myself a SAD lamp which I put next to the PC in the morning while I fill in my sleep diary which will hopefully compensate for the dark winter mornings.

    Cheers.

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    That's us for tonight, folks. Thanks for joining. Have a nice week and speak next time.

  • Sleepio Member

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    THanks Dr Kyle.

    Sleep well everyone!

  • Sleepio Member

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    I'm not sure what my sleep efficiency was before I started the course as I didn't monitor it much and I'm usually only half awake for brief periods during the night. I had a polysomnograph done which gave a figure of 57.8% but I think that must have been a really bad night.

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    Hi Laurel – good point, sleep efficiency was worse – low 70s before SR, so there is some improvement.

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    Thanks Dr Kyle.

    Nighty night everyone!

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    Hello all, I'm late. My husband is giving me a sad light and I,'m givinghim a morning light for Christmas. Hoping for a bright Christmas ( not a white one!)

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    That was an excellent session.

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