Live Discussion with Dr Simon Kyle - 29th January

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Posted 23 Jan 2014 at 12:07 PM
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    redfoot, typically one want to avoid light both before and during the sleep period, if at all possible. Some nice research data published in 2011 showing that if you leave a room light on during sleep the level and timing of melatonin secretion (often viewed as a cue for sleep) is flattened and delayed… The Prof will tell you more about this in subsequent sessions…

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    muscles do benefit from rest but the brain requires sleep… Possible core function of sleep is a brain (or neural) one… the phases of sleep and cycling between phases of sleep helps to reset the demands of wakefulness on the brain each and every night… I see you are only on session 1 and much more exciting info will come in subsequent sessions!

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    Hi Dr. Kyle, just joined.

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    Hi M. X

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    Hi Mushmellowstar

    I read your comment about your sleep anxiety. I have exactly the same problems.

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    Hiya, Holiday!

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    I hope Dr. Kyle will address that. I saw his other answer to my first question.

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    thanks RAYBIN... firstly, excellent progress… really well done.. a sign of the success of the course and your changing relationship with sleep is your ability to tolerate the odd poor night, so I was pleased to see you say “I have felt tired today but it was not a disaster”. This is crucial. Continuing with the schedule in the presence of poor nights, will improve the likelihood that lasting changes will occur. Of course, we all have the odd bad night but these should not trouble us, particularly as we are starting to build up an impeccable sleep history. By way of (bad) example, three rounds of great golf followed by a terrible game, does not mean that I am becoming a poor golfer. many external factors (in this case, weather, playing partners, etc.) may each have had a small impact.
    how we respond is important though and I think pressing ahead with session 4 might be good in this respect. It's also important to bear in mind that a night of restricted sleep (like yours) is registered with the brain, it will prioritise those features of sleep that you lost, the next time you will sleep (not just in duration but most often in the intensity of sleep)

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    Hope so too. Can't get to sleep for worrying about getting to sleep vicious circle..frequently leads to full blown panic. I have 1.5 hour commute in a morning to work and this just fuels the problem.

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    Thanks for the comment. I will absorb it later but I have another question. QHR has created much anxiety – about not being able to get back to sleep within 15 minutes….this something I have rarely done. How flexible can we be about the 15 mins? Could it be, say, 45 mins?

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    Yes, HelenEY. I know that panic cycle all to well. =(

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    thanks MMS. it is possible to continue the course (and benefit) while taking an antidepressant.Certainly there is some research data to suggest that antidepressants can improve sleep.
    I can fully understand the building concern after several nights of poor sleep on the trot. in some ways this building concern can, as you suggest, make poor sleep more likely to happen. creating a cycle. My response to RAYBIN above should also be considered here though. The brain recovers lost sleep (and while we may not always feel this ,the process is occurring). Knowing this can help alleviate some anxiety and concerns – Adhering to the schedule, making plans in the evening, and practicing relaxation can go along way in preparing our mind and body for sleep… have you tried experimenting with different sleepio strategies? any that you have felt worked in the past?

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    Hi Broger, access to some light if possible (although I realise the time of year is not good!) and avoiding comfortable sofas… in time as your sleep efficiency rises higher, your time in bed will increase, meaning that sleepiness in the morning will reduce… so stick with for now… this is a good re-learning process…

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    I have done mindfulness, meditation, thought checker. Thought checker works sometimes. Meditation only works when I'm already calm. Accepting that it's ok if I don't sleep works the best, but getting to the mindset to be able to accept it is extremely difficult if not impossible at times.

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    many thanks for sharing your experiences nightlight

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    HI LuluB… interesting… the positive to take away is that SR is achieving at least near-sleep state! as sleep becomes consolidated and stages of sleep re-distributed gradually over days and weeks, this , in my experience, tends to lessen.. later in the course you will learn about other techniques that may also reduce the racing mind phenomenon…

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    many thanks for joining tonight everyone, that's our time up. sorry we didn't get to cover all questions this evening. keep up the good work and speak next time!

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    The Prof said that you could access some relaxation tracks to listen to.. any idea where they are on the site? Yes, i often that I have having to wrestle with my thoughts. When the insomnia is really bad as it is now, I wake up thinking about sleep and go to sleep thinking about. It pretty much takes over. It is a shame that the g.p, doesn't really recognise the issue as the problem it is.

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    Thanks, Dr. Kyle.

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    Many thanks for your expert advice – I look forward to the forthcoming weeks.
    Regards

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