Live Discussion with Dr Simon Kyle - 25th April

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Posted 20 Apr 2012 at 8:09 AM
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    Dr Kyle, I did ask my GP for Melatonin. They can't prescribe it so GP sent me to my local Hospital. The Doc there didn't have a clue and also said they only prescribe for in patients. So…am at a total loss :(

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    You can buy melatonin on ebay, but no idea what you do with it, or how much you take,

  • Sleepio Member

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    Regards back Lonepine,

    sleep well

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    Many thanks Enfys and sorry to hear you are off work just now. Regarding your window, I would consider investing in a light-box to help advance your window. Exposure to the light should be done as soon as you wake up to help block hormones that might still want to push you/maintain sleep. Certainly worth discussing with GP about this, as light can be very effective. Making sure you are also fixing your meal times to suit a more neutral rhythm may also help.

    I think you are practicing very good techniques to deal with these thoughts, and make the right, logical interpretation of them. Putting the day to rest techniques may also help to 'shelve' these thoughts long before bed. Many find minfulness techniqus also useful for this exact situations. Anyone else on the course found certain techniques useful for similar situations?

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    yes CW but….because it's not regulated, you don't know WHAT you're getting

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    Colin Espie's book indicates that there are medical conditions causing insomnia for which CBT is inappropriate. Obviously CBT can address secondaey problems, but the implication is that the primary condition cannot be helped. Information on th esleepio site is much more ambivalent on this subject. Has the book been superceded by subsequent research?

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    I suppose you're right. I just happened to see it once when looking for anything that might help me get a nights sleep. I'd be too scared to try anything like that though.

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    Thanks Dr Kyle, I've managed to get my parent's to hae dinner earlier (7pm so late for the live session!). Do you know if skipping breakfast would have a big effect on sleep or circadian rhythms? I haven't eaten in the mornings for nearly 10 years (I have severe nausea in the mornings)?

  • Sleepio Member

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    He he!

    I'm only 48 too!

    :-)

  • Sleepio Member

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    Isn't it awful feeling like your 78 instead of 48!

  • Sleepio Member

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    exactly CW…fear of taking something that is supposedly safe…no idea how many grams to take…for how long etc. This is where the GP just washed her hands as the practice doesn't prescribe it. Where cold I find out I wonder. Thanks CW

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    that's right chrispy – for certain conditions, some aspects of CBT may be contra-indicated (e.g. sleep restriction where one might have epilepsy or bipolar disorder). Mild sleep loss may aggravate things. The latest science suggests that if poor sleep (insomnia disorder) is present, and substantive, then it should be treated as a seperate problem. Always seek help from GP/health professional though, as you are right, sometimes it may be that alleviation of another problem could put the poor sleep into remission.

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    Circadian – have you tried asking a pharmacist? They often have knowledge of supplements and non-standard medications (or know where to find out!).

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    That's us for tonight folks. Sorry we couldn't get through all questions. Keep them/re-post them next week and we will certainly get round to answering them. have a nice week and sleep well!

  • Sleepio Member

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    Thank you! Night all.

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    Good idea…will try that. Thanks

  • Sleepio Member

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    Thanks Dr. Kyle

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    Thanks Doctor,

    I know that limb movement and breathing not a problem, from the results of a sleep study/ overnight at Papworth Hospital Sleep Centre around 2 years ago.

    I believe that I am ‘used to’ being in pain and under physical tention all the time now, sinse my insomnia has been going on for years.

    So how can I identyfy if my problem is Firbromyalgia, Chronic fatigue or chronic pain?

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    Good night folks!

    I hope that I shall be able to be in touch with you on the site again soon,

    my very best wishes,

    Henry

    :-)

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    Think that's an excellent idea Henry!

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